Water as Fuel Some subjects are so huge that it may be difficult to see the other side. (Also see notes from (45); & from ‘maginwork’. Note also V Schauberger’s work. (Note the indemnity in 2). (Also, note what we have done here – a few SS tubes, tuned in a certain way - & we can run a vehicle! Consider the implications for any of the other electrolysis units, …… (if properly tuned – the possibilities could be interesting). 2. Electrolysis Note: this sentence contains every indemnity known to mankind – (if you happen to try any of the procedures in this whole article, mentioned or inferred, you do so at your risk – not mine.) (See the DIY section 6 for some of the warnings!) (Note also, a picture in S. Jones’ book, ref (2). – fortunately, he was not killed!) The process of breaking water into oxygen and hydrogen, by electrolysis, has been used in many ways. (That is, electric current is passed through water containing an electrolyte (a chemical that allows current, usually DC electricity, to flow in the water); (If electrolysis is new, for you, worth a look up, on the internet!). (Also note the comments in section 6.) Oxygen and hydrogen are produced, at the electrodes. See (29) for details. These gases can be collected separately, or combined to be used as needed. Combined use is what I’m discussing. “HHO” is often used as a symbol for the combined gas, produced by this electrolysis. L Oja (6) notes that the first recorded use of common duct electrolytic oxyhydrogen for burning as a flame, was in 1803! Yull Brown first patented a process for making this gas mix in 1974. His 1977 patent (7) is definitive. There were previous patents; e.g. one by Rhodes (8). (32) has a good video of it all. Reference (43) is a ‘must read’. One of the easiest ways to use water as a fuel, is to get a Brown’s gas machine – and go! The exercise of looking for the best manufacturer of a Brown’s gas machine, can be quite challenging. The net has a whole section on this. Getting a machine that is made by a reliable maker, can be worth it. (See the entire range, as well as possibly (34), or (36)). (Note also, the possibility of using an Arc-Atom burner with the gas, such as in section 12). (Brown’s gas can be used for cutting steel – but check comments at (44) for details – plasma preferred). Brown’s gas has some unique properties. It describes “a place where mater and energy coexist” (43). The flame temperature is generally described as being less than 200˚ C. (The actual temperature needs some research – I have found five different guestimates: although oxy-hydrogen is said to burn at 2800˚ C, Peavey ((17) - p 225) notes that hydrogen burns at 580 to 590˚ C in air or oxygen; also 134˚ (AMPM - makers of machines), 160˚, 275˚ or “near 1000” ˚ C. I have seen, as well, “extremely fiercely hot” – obviously confusing flame temperature, and flame effects!) But, I have seen a report that a Brown’s gas flame will volatilize tungsten (i.e. turn it from metal to vapor) – this usually requires something of the order of 5620˚ C. (The U-tube on (23) shows a small Brown’s gas flame melting tungsten: (3,422˚ C). A Brown’s gas flame will melt through brick. Look up the properties, if you want an interesting tour! (Brown’s gas on the internet) – (over 24 million sites!). Brown’s gas (BG) is not suitable for welding steel – see (44). BG is excellent for glass artists and flame working (44). Actually using ‘Brown’s gas’ just requires some understanding. S. Meyer (15) had a patent telling a possible way. When I first read this patent, I wondered why have such a patent? After I had seen how Brown’s gas could melt holes in things – I really understood! Basically, the patent suggests recycling some of the burnt gaseous products, together with some air, into the gas burner stream, thus adjusting the final flame temperature. Before I made a burner……. One way I have found for controlling the gas, when burning the gas: Use radiation for heating. Over two-thirds of heat transfer, when firing a kiln, is by radiation. So, by playing the flame onto, say, a face of high alumina bricks, and allowing the radiation from the hot bricks to heat the kiln, a solution exists. But NOTE: the flame needs to be moved across the bricks, continuously, or a hole in the bricks will soon appear! (When starting a bisque firing for a pottery kiln, the flame can go into the burner port, and raise the temperature, slowly, as required, till well above 100˚ C). (The flame should not touch anything). (Same routine if heating a crucible for melting metal! If the Brown’s gas flame is left to play only on the crucible in one spot, …a hole…Not the sort of thing one does twice!!) Water electrolysis – to use the gases produced for a fuel (and fuel supplementation)– is now quite common for internal combustion engines. . (Note that supplementation, (rather than replacement), is often the limit – because electrolysis is really ‘quite inefficient’ (39). (PWM is a different story!)). Again, on the net, one can have an interesting exploration looking up how it is done by some people. Possible sites to start with could be: HHO generation; (or water for fuel), etc., etc. Most HHO gas generator makers claim to reduce petrol (or diesel, or gas) consumption by a quarter to a third, or more. I notice that the sites claiming 100% replacement of petroleum fuel by oxyhydrogen are increasing. (But note the technologies!). The variety of electrolytic units, and the associated electronic requirements, are worth a study. The variety is amazing. There are sites that claim to have tried most relevant ones – and even give a review of their results! (In terms of electrode design, one site, (19), even has two different electrode designs (in the one unit) – it is claimed that one makes quick burning fuel, and the other makes slower burning fuel!) There are sites discussing the types of H. Note that ref. (37) has a comment on calculating the efficiency of a unit. There are a few more comments in section 6 3. “Splitting water, or resonating water” These pseudonyms are used to distinguish this process from electrolysis. This process can produce gas from pure water; (One can get good gas production with water that is pure to the fourth decimal place, (by analysis of impurities), ( and, contained NO electrolyte!). (For the first time you do it, it has to be seen to be believed!). That gas can be produced in this way, would suggest that a different process to electrolysis is involved – so the armchair thermodynamic addicts, ( see ATLLAS – section 11), can save their heart attack for another day! See (25), (26) for more detail. (The gas produced, for the current used, means that electrolysis is out!); (quite good quantities of gas can be made for, or by, surprisingly low amounts of electricity). (Stan Meyers, at (25), claimed that up to 3 times the gas produced (for the electricity consumed, or by conventional electrolysis), was possible!) – (pipes involved). Water is the safest way to store hydrogen which has three times the energy by weight as gasoline; (26), and (25). The water is made to vibrate, or resonate, at some frequency. (Consider the analogy to organ pipes). (Meyer’s patent (16) uses the word ‘resonating’, and describes the process). Stan Meyer used resonating pipes in water (with electric current applied), to produce gas which he used to run his car. (The pipes were made to a certain size, suggesting tuning for the frequency). The frequency of about 40K, he generated mechanically. (His patents are worth a look, if this interests you). (Tesla suggested that 40 to 60K frequency resonance could make water usable). Meyer used pure water. Meyer made extra units, to give the volume of gas he needed to run his dune buggy – (which he did run for four years, as noted); (the design of each unit he made was quite specific – obviously tuned to his design). (I have decided to run with Stan’s resonance; I think it offers the best options.) (There are more notes on tuning pipes for this technology in section 6. Also see (26)). And (46). Note other comments on frequencies. Dave Lawton (5) has suggested an electronic method for generating this frequency, for Meyer’s approach. As noted on section 6, his circuit is limited to about 2 amps. (A commercial unit is now available, (with a higher rating), if one wants to use this, and not have to build the electronics), (9), and/or (10). The unit in (9) is very reasonably priced (cheaper than the parts for (5), and runs at up to 40k+ frequency, with (PWM); and will take up to 30 amps –certainly the way to go, if this interests you!) Stan Meyer also had a patent (11), where the spark plug of a car would do the required resonating, so that water could be used in a car engine, on demand. Again, the controversy surrounding this is interesting, and worth a look. All of Stan Meyer’s patents are interesting reading. Note: Ref (39) has a whole section on spark plugs. And/or, US patents 4,394,230 & (16). (Note that (34) has a unit that “does not need PWM”). - (Note also, that he markets a good PWM unit!!). In summary, this particular technology offers tremendous potential for burning water. 4 Combinations of the above: If one looks up any of the electrolysis web sites, (e.g. water for car fuel), there are a whole lot of units available that combine electrolysis with varying electronic applications – usually PWM (where various pulses, or frequencies, are fed into the electrolysis unit (via the electrodes), that produces the gas). In some sense, these could be seen as combinations of sections 2 and 3 above. Most units that resonate the water in some way, claim much better gas production for less electricity use. (Plowing through all this info., would make anyone into an armchair guru, & fit for ATLLAS!!). 5 Burning water. Some pictures: (from Water as Fuel & Brown’s Gas & HHO) NOTE SALT WATER When I first had the idea that water might burn, if passed through a Brown’s gas flame, it was a year later before I found this quote: “since the flame is sufficiently hot to melt tungsten it is entirely possible that minute amounts of water injected at the point of combustion will break down into HHO gas”; (23). ((27) also relevant here!). More research is needed in this area. Ref. (39) is really relevant here: - worth a look: - (pictures of water burning). Ref. (11) shows a way of burning water. The principle used for some of the spark plugs that inject water with a spark, could obviously be used as a way of burning water. PIC ABOVE 6 D I Y…or, do it yourself! I see myself as a diy person – so if you want to have a go – you are in good company! (Thanx for noting that I’m unbiased!). Kindly note that this section contains more indemnity, explicit, or inferred, than section 2 above, if that is possible! ….. Please be careful! (Though this section is in notes, it still does not cover a fraction of the information). In this section, I’m simply passing on some of the information of some of the dead end gullies that I have explored. One of the cheapest and most reasonably effective ways to use water for fuel is to obtain a unit such as in reference (9), and/or ((10) – dearer), for the electronics (already built for you). Also see (21), (this is (10) in more detail). (I found both (9) and (10), (and the D Lawton unit), hard to tune easily and accurately to a parv

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biggest BOTTLE TREE

biggest       BOTTLE      TREE

by JG         author (here - holding tree up!!)

This one is in Toowoomba, Australia

The Queensland Bottle Tree (Brachychiton rupestris) ,  is native of Queensland, Australia. Its grossly swollen trunk gives it a remarkable appearance and gives rise to the name. As a succulent, drought-deciduous tree, it is tolerant of a range of various soils, and temperatures.

It can grow to 18–20 meters (59–66 ft) in height and its trunk has the unique shape of a bottle. Its swollen trunk is primarily used for water storage. On every tree the leaves are variable from narrow and elliptic to deeply divided. Clusters of yellowy bell shaped flowers are hidden within the foliage, and are followed by woody boat-shaped fruits.

Bottle Trees are commonly found planted in streets, parks, on farms and as features in gardens. Roma, Queensland is one country town with prominent bottle trees.  -  Wiki

 The woody boat-shaped fruits, with seeds.

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